Hello Mr. Kurzban, I trust you , I trust your years of experience in the field of immigration law. I know you will do justice to this useless and unconvincing DOS arguments . You have done it in the past and I know that surely you will do it again. Folks it is high time we took the bulls by the horns. Tell all your family members to donate as they will gain a lot when we win this case. Pray hard guys and surely we will win.
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I looked through the DOS brief. I think DOS has made a terrible mistake in it's arguments. They are saying 2% of winners (those who submitted after Oct 6th but still won) could have won randomly. Logically, that is still wrong, that was not a random win, because the selection was done though by computer software, but by the kind of software that was not specifically intended for random selection (and that is why does not satisfy statistical tests for randomness). However, from some point of view Chen's brief admits those 2% won randomly. I do not know how the court could treat things like that (they admit those wins were some kind of random, even it is clear they were not). But that gives Kurzban a real chance to claim the victory for 2% of 22,316 (who submitted on Oct. 7th or later and know they won) or even 2% of 100,000 (who sumbitted on Oct. 7th or later, won, but does not know about the win). Those from Nepal and Japan, who submitted on the 6th could be included as well. Let's see whether Kurzban makes a case of that mistake.
2% are random based on statistics/mathematics definition of randomness. Because every participant out of 15 Million who submitted after Oct.6th, had equal chances of winning. The DoS is right saying that 2% are random by definition.
However, the DoS failed to explain how Asia region wasn't filled up from pool of Oct.5th. They say that Mr.Kurzban's approximate numbers of participants from Asia submitted on Oct. 5th is just a speculation. Well, let's see the actual numbers during the court hearing. Something tells me, Mr.Chen didn't provide them in the brief because it is not merely a speculation on the part of Mr.Kurzban. And then the randomness issue can be more easily defined.
Particular statement I am talking about from DOS's brief is "Under the State Department’s interpretation, however, a lottery that is two percent random and ninety-eight percent preordained by the actions of the participants cannot satisfy the regulatory randomness requirement". That could point that DOS admits 2% were random, at least they do not state otherwise, however they should if they think differently.
if DOS affirms the randomness of the latter applicants, they also state by this statement the randomness of the former. A program (thus DOS) can't decide by itself to be random with a certain pool of applicants and not the others. The "2% statement" is a mistake from DOS which implies defining the whole selection process as random.
And that was the only Chen's response to the following Kurzban's statements as of February 7, 2012:
Because these 2% came from entries submitted after the first two days, and Amin gives every indication that they were not selected based on any preset conditions, they were chosen “at random.”
and even a stronger one:
There is no dispute that the 2% backfill from days following October 5 and 6 occurred without predesign, that is, randomly
Chen did not object that there was no dispute. That gives a strong impression he silently confirmed he agreed.
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Hello Mr. Kurzban, I trust you , I trust your years of experience in the field of immigration law. I know you will do justice to this useless and unconvincing DOS arguments . You have done it in the past and I know that surely you will do it again.
ReplyDeleteFolks it is high time we took the bulls by the horns. Tell all your family members to donate as they will gain a lot when we win this case. Pray hard guys and surely we will win.
Please just donate something. Anything you have is welcomed. 50 dollars, 100 dollars , 30 dollars just donate something . We can win this case so guys dont be discouraged .
ReplyDeleteI looked through the DOS brief. I think DOS has made a terrible mistake in it's arguments. They are saying 2% of winners (those who submitted after Oct 6th but still won) could have won randomly. Logically, that is still wrong, that was not a random win, because the selection was done though by computer software, but by the kind of software that was not specifically intended for random selection (and that is why does not satisfy statistical tests for randomness). However, from some point of view Chen's brief admits those 2% won randomly. I do not know how the court could treat things like that (they admit those wins were some kind of random, even it is clear they were not). But that gives Kurzban a real chance to claim the victory for 2% of 22,316 (who submitted on Oct. 7th or later and know they won) or even 2% of 100,000 (who sumbitted on Oct. 7th or later, won, but does not know about the win). Those from Nepal and Japan, who submitted on the 6th could be included as well. Let's see whether Kurzban makes a case of that mistake.
ReplyDelete2% are random based on statistics/mathematics definition of randomness.
DeleteBecause every participant out of 15 Million who submitted after Oct.6th, had equal chances of winning. The DoS is right saying that 2% are random by definition.
However, the DoS failed to explain how Asia region wasn't filled up from pool of Oct.5th. They say that Mr.Kurzban's approximate numbers of participants from Asia submitted on Oct. 5th is just a speculation.
Well, let's see the actual numbers during the court hearing. Something tells me, Mr.Chen didn't provide them in the brief because it is not merely a speculation on the part of Mr.Kurzban. And then the randomness issue can be more easily defined.
Particular statement I am talking about from DOS's brief is "Under the State Department’s interpretation, however, a lottery that is two percent random and ninety-eight percent preordained by the actions of the participants cannot satisfy the regulatory randomness requirement". That could point that DOS admits 2% were random, at least they do not state otherwise, however they should if they think differently.
ReplyDeleteif DOS affirms the randomness of the latter applicants, they also state by this statement the randomness of the former. A program (thus DOS) can't decide by itself to be random with a certain pool of applicants and not the others. The "2% statement" is a mistake from DOS which implies defining the whole selection process as random.
ReplyDeleteAnd that was the only Chen's response to the following Kurzban's statements as of February 7, 2012:
ReplyDeleteBecause these 2% came from entries submitted after the first two days, and Amin gives every indication that they were not selected based on any preset conditions, they were chosen “at random.”
and even a stronger one:
There is no dispute that the 2% backfill from days following October 5 and 6 occurred without predesign, that is, randomly
Chen did not object that there was no dispute. That gives a strong impression he silently confirmed he agreed.
Guys ! Please contribute money.
ReplyDeleteI sent another $100 to the lawyer.
I'll show you how to save $100.
It's very simple.
Save only $5 everyday instead of buying something waste like drinking coffee outside.
In 20 days, it'll be $100.
And send $100.
It might be easy.
But it's not difficult.
That's it.
The lawsuit is continuing.
We are responsible for that.
Please send money.
Hi Everybody We Must Contribution for our Case About Me I Just Sent 200.00 US Dollar Last 3 Days At 03/11/2012 God Bless Your Great Efforts :)
ReplyDeleteRemon Ezzat Azmy Shehata
One Of 22,000 Victims
Sohag , EGYPT
Good !
DeleteThank you so much.